The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Designed to be the future of revolvers, the top strap, full frame design made this revolver one of the strongest available. Very cool stuff. Theyll NEVER rust this way. I did not grease the shutgun one time and thought to fire it last. . If yoiui can keep all six shots in a four inch circle, at whatever range you think you are likely to see a deer, then take your Remington Percussion Revolver hunting. Belt is cut from premium grade leather and makes for a top grade pants belt. In my opinion, I don t think its enough. Union City, TN 38261, Outside of the U.S.:1-731-885-0700 My First Colt Style Gun, and my Last Colt style gun! Johnnie Roper. Description If you want to be one of those Youre only hunting if.. people. Item. I have a Uberti 1847 Walker. Bah! EMF Company Copyright 2009-2023 All rights reserved. Just make sure that you compress the powder with the ball when you press it into the cylinder. Triple K Holster for the Buffalo & Bison. SKU: PF58SS448. Then little oil and you are set. Black Powder Percussion Revolver 7 1/2" Stainless Steel, 1858 Remington Army .44 Caliber Black Powder Percusion Muzzleloader 5 1/2" Stainless Steel, 1858 Remington Army .44 Caliber Black Powder Percussion Pistol 7 1/2" Barrel Standard Blue, 1858 Remington Army Black Powder Pistol .44 Caliber 5 1/2" Standard Blue, 1858 Remington Navy Black Powder Pistol .36 Caliber Percussion 7 1/2" Barrel Standard Blue, Pedersoli Remington Pattern Target Percussion Pistol .44 Caliber, Pedersoli Remington Pattern CUSTOM Target Percussion Revolver .44 Caliber. One can shoot all day on a pittance. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. In the case of unfinished recievers, like when you buy a flat pressed AK reciever in the mail, it becomes a firearm for the purposes of the ATF as soon as one puts the first bend in it (at least thats the criteria for a prohibited person case to be made, such as a felon) Buying a conversion cylinder would be exactly the same boat legally, as ordering up a mil spec conversion kit for a semi-auto AK, its legal to have, legal to buy, legal to sell, but completely illegal to install. In my experience, the fit and finish of the Italian replicas is not so much who makes them as who imports them and sells them in the US. I did know enough about black powder to use soap and water and clean until the bubbles showed white with no discoloration, but I screwed up and did not fully disassemble the cylinder and firing mechanism and after three months in storage (before and after a move) it was a rusty mess. I lowered my ball size from .454 to 451 (pietta) and dropped my charge from 30 to 20 grains. Unbelievable what has happened to the price of Old Army since Ruger quit making them. Come visit us at: 1858remington.com Johnnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378, yup agree totally been doin bp for almost a half century myself n this is an excellent way to clean them your guy needs to foam elsewhere apparently that foam might dribble onto a bun n rust right through it to the table underneath after all foam is water lol. But Civil War rifled muskets were lethal out to 300, so I have to question such a claim. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. Revolver (.454 Dia. Bullshit!!! I started out with 10 to 15 grains, then worked up. Ive been pretty satisfied with Clean Shot sub, and it smokes a lot less and produces significantly less fouling. If yu put a comment on his page, and advocate water to clean guns, he will immediatly foam at the mouth, delete your posting, and then tear a strip off your rear end for DARING to disagree with him! I am planning on getting one for my Grandson and maybe one for my Granddaughter. DO use a stout load. So If you load the .44 Remington with something like 25 grains blackpoweder you only get about 100 ft-lbs energy. I weighs a ton, has a 9 inch barrel and is damn accurate. 1412 West Reelfoot Avenue Easier to load and clean. Friends (very few of them) are welcome to spend the night on the sofa, be on the back porch at sunrise, and harvest a doe with his thanks. WARNING: Black powder firearms cannot be shipped to Canada or New Jersey, See Footnotes for the following locations: *New York City; Bronx, Kings, Nassau, New York, Queens, and Richmond; **Illinois - ***Michigan. Revolver Shooters Kit, all the essential accessories you need for shooting blackpowder revolvers. Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. The definition includes any replica of an antique firearm if it is not designed or redesigned for usingrimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or uses rimfire or conventional centerfire ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States, and which is not readily available in ordinary channels of commercial trade. More Details 1858 Remington (CH) Steel Sheriff .44 5 1/2" Price: $460.00 Rated: .44 CALIBER The Pistol was so designed, that the hammer when cocked, would suck back with it, the remnants of the cap just fired, which more often than not, would follow the principle of Gravity, so ably demonstrated by Sir Isaac Newton, and fall into the Yawning Gap, the cocked hammer revealed, So when the trigger was pressed for the next shot, there would be a sort of, Scrunch, sound, as the cap was chewed up and mashed by the falling hammer, effectivley jamming the revolver! (#% or 40 grains.) My very first Cap & Ball Revolver was replica of aaan1860 Colt Army Revolver. Now, 155 years later, you can still buy brand new versions of Fordyces design, mostly made in Italy. I am not convinced about black powder handguns for deer hunting. One good smack on the percussion caps, and BOOM! I use the same 452s in my bps that my wife uses in her .45 acp both 452s with the ring shear it is still .450. Regular gun solvents cant remove the black powder salts. The shipping and customer service at Old South Firearms is unmatched! Perfectly sized for revolver chambers and small bore muzzleloaders. Nipple pick attached to brass cap. I have a used stainless Army San Paolo 1858 Remington that I got off Gunbroker several years ago and still havent fired it. You know youve got a good, airtight seal in the chamber when the mouth of the cylinder shaves a small lead ring off the edge as you seat the ball. I had the same problem. For an 1858, the standard Remington caps will work brilliantly. Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! Traditions 1858 Remington New Army .44 Cal.Steel Frame, 12" Oct. Barrel Buffalo $420.00 iPhone iPad Notice IF YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE CHECKING OUT USING YOUR iPHONE OR iPAD, PLEASE GIVE US A CALL: 205.533.8595 ----------------------------------- We Do Not Accept PayPal PayPal "Prohibits" The Sale of Youre reloaded. I might be wrong about this! the 1858 is Lee van Cleefs gun in Good, bad and the ugly. The exception is, obviously, serialized items. I also have an open top revolver and an 1873 rifle that are Uberti. The rifle is the best looking gun in my collection, even better than my Henry. Put the caps in the back and shoot. The Pietta 1858 Remington Revolver was one of the most popular side arms of the Civil War and was the last of the Remington percussion revolvers to be manufactured. PIETTA AND I SHOOT 30 GRAINS OF PYRODEX FFFG AND IT JUST WILL MOVE MY HAND CAN I GO A LITTLE HIGHER ON MY GRAINS I AM A FIRST TIME SHOOTER OF THE CAP AND BALL REVOLVER THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME PAUL. What size/type primers are best? Nice! Many, many thanks for making this information public. The 1858 Remington New Army is a large revolver, weighs almost three pounds, and with an eight inch barrel and quite well suited for cavalry and long-distance work (it was sighted in a seventy-five yards). Thatd be 24 shots of fairly rapid fire, not shabby even by todays standards. I HAVE A 1858 44CAL. Code A434/ST36. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & Answers VFG Super Intensive Revolver & Pistol Cleaning Pellets, VFG Super Intensive Rifle Cleaning Pellets, VFG Super Intensive Shotgun Cleaning Pellets, Kowa 88mm Prominar Spotting Scopes & Accessories, Muzzleloading Short Starters & Pistol Loaders, Muzzleloading Shooting Patches, Flints & Leathers, Muzzleloading Powder Measures, Horn & Pan Chargers, Treso Muzzleloading Bullet Pullers & Patch Worms, 1858 Remington Army .44 Cal. LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. The ball is further squeezed when it enters the forcing cone. In the Remington Revolver, the cap is struck by the hammer, AFTER it passes through the slot in the Recoil Shield! A standard 1858s barrel measures eight inches. 921(a)(3), (a)(16). For more information and to see quantity in stock, click the "More Info" button. If you do this you dont need a wad. Wonder Wads .44/.45 Cal. STAINLESS STEEL FRAME. I never did fault him for it even though he was 3000 miles out of his jurisdiction. And thats part of the beauty of cap-and-ball revolvers; you can vary the powder charge any time you wantlight loads for plinking, and heavy loads for whatever. Lubed with WonderLube 1000 Plus, EZ Lube
One reason is I am new to bp and have no one to ask for help. Check out our forum: Dear Mr. Nickel, The type of man who could sell Deep Freezers and electric Fans to Eskimos! If you look closely during that scene, you can see the metallic cartridge loading gate cut into the 1858, as well as the metallic cartridges themselves peeking out of the cylinder that Preacher grabs with his left hand. After the first range trip, i tore it down to the last screw and cleaned/oiled the whole thing and still wound up with some rust on it when I put it back together the next day. Though the guns be identical, the first is free of any legal imcumberance, while the second has an FFL holder and a waiting period to deal with. I got to fire a few cap and ball revolvers when on holiday in Italy. It was Assistant District Attorney Ben Stone that shot LaHood. thereof. On a Remington 1858, all you have to do is flip down the loading lever, pull the cylinder pin forward, and ECCO! Any rifle, pistol or shotgun made prior to that majic date is paper free. Snap for revolver retainer and easy removal from your belt. 1858 Remington Revolver Spare Pietta Black Powder Cylinder, Steel .44 Cal. Fingers on triggers, especially that Civil War vet. Fits all 1851, 1860 and 1858 revolvers. My Colt 2nd generation 1851 Navy will equal that sometimes, more commonly putting its six balls into a 2-inch circle. Eventually, the design inspired the 1875 Remington, a true metallic cartridge revolver, but one that clearly shows the influences from the 1858. See "More Info" to follow a link to Cylinder Pouches. 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Will not fit .31 or .36 caliber cylinders. Actually percussion caps come in different sizes. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. Please click on the "Full Description" button for additional information and to read the "Caution" Statement provided by the manufacturer. Add 3% to the total cost for such purchases. The Remington 1858 has a top strap over the cylinder making it stronger than the Colt 1860 and older firearms. All year long he trains the deer to come to his corn feeder. Nazwa: 1858 Remington New Model Army Stainless Steel .44 Wykoczenie: Inox (Stainless Steel) Kaliber: .44 Typ zamka: Kapiszonowy Bben: 6-cio komorowy Designed to be the future of long range revolvers, it's top strap and full steel frame design made this revolver one of the strongest and most sought after available. I have been told of caps jamming up a Remington Revolver, but in over Twenty Years of shooting Remingtons, have not had a single jam caused by a cap! Some were mentioning movies in which the Remington 1858 made an appearance. By March, 1872, the Revolving Carbine had been adapted to use modern cartridges, offered for $25, chambered in .36 Long rimfire. Fits 30" - 46" waist. Big thump, big cloud, and I could see the huge rounds hitting the berm when I was spotting through binoculars. The 1858 Remington-Beals got the nod because of the top strap (previous buy didnt, Navy in .36) and it came with an extra cylinder. Comes 100 to a box. About 400 ft-lbs Energy. (Of course, if you want the value of a gun to quadruple, just buy it from me and wait five years.) Sounds like the name of a shady character lurking in the wisteria of some Flannery OConnor story, doesnt it? There is a wide variance in rifles, and I have seen it claimed that range is no more than 100 yards. Thats meat harvesting and theres nothing wrong with it. These parts will work for the following models made by Pietta: 1858 New Model Stainless Army & Navy, 1858 Stainless Target Model, 1858 Stainless Sheriff, and 1858 Stainless Buffalo Model. Today, we know Old Number 21478 as the Remington 1858 . I shot it once in the neck using a 200 grain 45 acp fmj bullet and about 37 grains of 777. Loved the pics too. Serial number- D81019. 1 choice when it comes to caring for any muzzleloader. The barrel is 7 1/2". Very nice finish. Another version is the 1858 NEW MODEL ARMY STAINLESS STEEL .36/.44 cal., designoci to better stand the wear caused by the black powder. Remington with 40 grains. The .36 Cal 1851 Navy features a brass backstrap and trigger guard. The instruction manual back then did not give any information on proper cleaning. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. When emailing or calling sellers direct,
please mention that you saw their listing on GunsInternational.com, Muzzleloading Revolvers - Modern & Replica. Thus making it almost impossible for a cap to fall into the workings of the gun. Traditions 1858 Remington New Army .44 Cal.Steel Frame, 12" Oct. Barrel Buffalo. could easily have the hammer slip off his thumb, and and fall into the Half-Cock Notch, This almost always broke off a sixteenth of an inch off the tip of the sear, and using this rough edge to fire the piece, made for a very rough trigger release! Frankly, I like the 45LC version better. For Civil War pistoleros the best way to rapidly reload any cap-and-ball revolver, including the 1858, was to carry several of them, like this other guya Confederate guerilla from Missouri. Thanks in advance. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. and 12 ga. There was no penetration, but the deer died where I hit it. Wash hands thoroughly after exposure. Very nice article on the 1858 Remington. . These are considered antiques and not subject to paper work. Just my opinion. While the patent date of this gun was in 1858, actual production didnt start till after 1861 or so, I think 62. Pretty simple. So feel free to experiment. Great writeup of a gun that has been on my list for a while. But always remember that the original buffal0 rifles were all black powder cartridges. Oh MY when I fired the first revlver chamber flash fired the shotgun too, with a full ounce of buckshot. She just a rolls out inna ya hand! I know we are here because our forefathers were able to bring down food with primitive firearms. percussion revolver to a five shot .45 LC cartridge shooting firearm. Can anyone tell me a good load to start? All our Pietta revolvers are built to Tradition's high Quality Control Requirements and are among the best of the Pietta Brand. Thank God I had my Reminton. Question of the Day: Do You Worry About Unarmed Loved Ones? I had to put down an estimated 350- 400 pound bear that can in my camp and got into it with my dog. Treat he hammer with the same respect you treat the trigger. If paying by credit card, store policy is to ship to the billing address of the card. 8" BARREL. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? I can put up to 60 grains into each chamber, though I usually use 40. Mmmmmmlightly-grilled, corn-fed Bambis mother backstrap.mmmmmmm. With 20 grains, it shoots like a charm, so much so that Ive never loaded it any heavier. The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. Hornady Lead Round Balls for MuzzleLoader Revolvers. surrounded by 9 .44 chambers. Buy 1858 Remington Stainless .44 Caliber 5.5: GunBroker is the largest seller of Black Powder Pistols & Muzzleloader Pistols Black Powder & Muzzleloaders All: 983115039 . Precision Swagged
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I got my first 58 Remington in 1989 for Christmas ($99 from Cabelas). I would advise ANYONE beginning Black Powder Revolver Shooting, do NOT ever buy the Colt Style Guns, and steer WELL AWAY, from any Cap &Ball Revolver that has a Brass Frame! by morgan jones on 9/2/2014 4:22:38 PM. Made of top grain cowhide natural tanned. It's in good shape overall and comes as you see here and no longer has its box. We recently got our reader-responsive electronic monitoring and drone surveillance program up and running. If were arbitrarily going to pick a time period of weaponry that makes you a true hunter, lets go caveman. Rewolwer Pietta 1858 Remington New Model Army Stainless Sheriff .44 (RGSSH44) . .454 Dia. But the website is easy to track sale prices through the year. Any purchases made in the state of Kentucky incur a 6% sales tax. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The book calls for using 3Fg, on the can it will read as FFFg. They are both shooters and I believe they will have a blast with this next time I visit. This conversion cylinder will allow you to convert your 1858 Remington Pietta .44 cal. Not really outrage, but an eyeroll for sure. Nice sight picture. And man, do we have a lot of Bambis kin running loose here. More than 125,000 of these revolvers were produced by Remington. Oiled brown finish to match holsters. That is true. Do not try to turn a century-and-a-half old black powder design into a modern magnum. I love it. Thank God I did not shoot my dog that had to have 62 stitches. If a conversion cylinder (to shoot black powder cowboy loads) Wow, TTAG must be monitoring my TV; this review came on here while Im watching The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Red Coats Get Run Off. There are no exceptions, your payment will be returned to the account it was drawn on. I always chuckle when I clean it in the sink with soap and water. Although original 1858s were finished in a very uniform blue, I particularly like the color-case hardening on the frame and the plain-jane, oil-finished grips. Ive got an Uberti rep with the brass frame, so loading above 25g of triple eff aint recommended. It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and great fun to shoot. Not that it cant be done. Hardened, blued steel. This was very helpful, Im thinking about buying one of these pistols and this gave a lot of information about the pistol and the of it. Ive got a friend in the Hill Country who is a maniac on the topic of hunting Bambis mom. The emphasis on having antlers to hang on the wall has led to a ratio of 20 does per buck, which is not a stable gene pool. Sale prices reflect a 3% cash/money order discount. A must for shooters on the move. Yup means I cant sell a converted C&B without using an FFL. The other great thing about the cap-and-ball revolvers is that they are not considered firearms, so you can buy all you want and have them shipped to your door. My personal recipe for 1858 fun is 25 grains of holy black with a .454 diameter round lead ball seated firmly atop it. My Uberti-made 1858 Remington .44, with its fixed sights, will put six balls into a 1-1/2 inch circle at a measured 25 yards (none of that pacing-off stuff for me) from a benchrest. Save time and eliminate the hassle of the loading lever with the 1858 Remington Cylinder Pin Quick Release. Same as for buying an 1873 Colt Peacemakerjust because it was designed prior to 1899 doesnt mean that you can have it shipped to your door. The patent date is 1858. The other was a blued adjustable-sight Old Army that was just sheer round-ball hilarious to shoot. with brass frame or steel frame . I think if I was to get a cap and ball revolver I would look for one of the stainless steel Rugers. 1 3/4" wide. The grips were too thin to get a good grip of. Army Generals, The Gentleman in charge of the War Appropriations Dept., and LOTS of High Ranking Army Officers! The safety notch feature makes it easy to safely carry a fully-loaded 1858 Remington. In between, he was granted US Patent No. Or even from New York? All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). Compact solid brass, holds Ten #10 or #11 percussion caps. I went out of my tent and I could barely see but there was a big ass bear looking at me about 20 feet away. A strap leather holster belt with brass plated center bar buckle held in place with snaps. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for PIETTA 1858 REMINGTON STAINLESS CONVERSION CYLINDER .45LC at the best online prices at eBay! By the end of this week my "brass frame" Bison will be here, and that will make 6 1858s that I own! ", Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont [have] safety notches.. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. It would sure be cool to see a review of the Colt competitors
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